I absolutely despise this ship. ;) But it's interesting enough.
1. Well, we have to assume that it's canon that they slept at least two times with each other. Considering how I don't see Stannis doing that on his own free will, and how Stannis did not seem to know that he was in any way involved in Renly's death, I have to assume that it was non-con and that she either drugged him or used some spell on him. I can't ship it as consensual, because that's just ridiculously OOC for Stannis. He trusts her, yes, but he wouldn't sleep with anyone just because he wants to. 2. I think it's very obvious that they don't care about each other as people. Melisandre thinks Stannis is AA and must save the world, which is why she supports him. Stannis needs power and she can give him power, which is why he keeps her around. The moment she stops thinking he's AA, or the moment Stannis doesn't need her anymore, they'll be done. That moment can't come soon enough, imo. 3. Erm ... I think the only thing that makes me happy about them is that without her Stannis probably would have got killed by Renly. 4. The lingering feeling that she will be the one who will get him killed. 5. I wish he had been a bit smarter about it and not let the whole religious thing get too powerful. He doesn't give a damn about religion, which is probably why he went like, "sure, do whatever you like." But she's so set on him being AA, she would have kept supporting him even if he hadn't alienated everyone else with the sigil, the burnings of septs and godswoods etc. Generally, I just hope she'll GDIAF soon. 6. I'd be more comfortable with them ending up with anyone else than each other. ;) Melisandre I can't see in a relationship. Stannis with the usual suspects, Jon, Davos, Sansa. 7. Stannis becomes king and gets rid of her? My happy ending for them is Stannis and/or Davos killing her, preferably after she has stopped being useful. I don't hate her, but as long as she's alive I have the impression that she'll just get him killed. My personal pet theory which will never come true: she stops thinking he's AA and burns him for his kingsblood ... except that it turns out she was right, he actually IS AA, steps out of the flames unscathed and kills her because, well, she tried to burn him alive. ;) She'd probably die happily knowing that she was right.
No happy answers here, sorry. It's a fucked up non!con pairing with too much rape for my taste, and as consensual relationship it's out of character the moment there's any sex involved.
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Date: 2011-10-03 02:41 am (UTC)1. Well, we have to assume that it's canon that they slept at least two times with each other. Considering how I don't see Stannis doing that on his own free will, and how Stannis did not seem to know that he was in any way involved in Renly's death, I have to assume that it was non-con and that she either drugged him or used some spell on him. I can't ship it as consensual, because that's just ridiculously OOC for Stannis. He trusts her, yes, but he wouldn't sleep with anyone just because he wants to.
2. I think it's very obvious that they don't care about each other as people. Melisandre thinks Stannis is AA and must save the world, which is why she supports him. Stannis needs power and she can give him power, which is why he keeps her around. The moment she stops thinking he's AA, or the moment Stannis doesn't need her anymore, they'll be done. That moment can't come soon enough, imo.
3. Erm ... I think the only thing that makes me happy about them is that without her Stannis probably would have got killed by Renly.
4. The lingering feeling that she will be the one who will get him killed.
5. I wish he had been a bit smarter about it and not let the whole religious thing get too powerful. He doesn't give a damn about religion, which is probably why he went like, "sure, do whatever you like." But she's so set on him being AA, she would have kept supporting him even if he hadn't alienated everyone else with the sigil, the burnings of septs and godswoods etc. Generally, I just hope she'll GDIAF soon.
6. I'd be more comfortable with them ending up with anyone else than each other. ;) Melisandre I can't see in a relationship. Stannis with the usual suspects, Jon, Davos, Sansa.
7. Stannis becomes king and gets rid of her? My happy ending for them is Stannis and/or Davos killing her, preferably after she has stopped being useful. I don't hate her, but as long as she's alive I have the impression that she'll just get him killed. My personal pet theory which will never come true: she stops thinking he's AA and burns him for his kingsblood ... except that it turns out she was right, he actually IS AA, steps out of the flames unscathed and kills her because, well, she tried to burn him alive. ;) She'd probably die happily knowing that she was right.
No happy answers here, sorry. It's a fucked up non!con pairing with too much rape for my taste, and as consensual relationship it's out of character the moment there's any sex involved.