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Too many stupid Landa/Hellstrom-ideas for one day

I thought I had an idea for a Landa/Hellstrom-fic. But then I realised that I just want them to quote Schiller to each other in bed. And I haven’t even reread Don Karlos in ages. You can see that something is seriously wrong with my creativity when all I can come up with is have two Nazis quote gorgeous German literature to each other. And reading Musil’s Die Verwirrungen des Zöglings Törleß (The Confusions of Young Torless) gives me the crazy urge to write about teenage!Landa in an Austro-Hungarian boarding school. Or write about Landa and Hellstrom having some crazy discussion about why Landa is so very Austrian and why that annoys the hell out of Dieter (who is, let's face it, easily annoyed). What on Earth? Reading books is so not good for me, apparently. ;) ~~But don't you just see that? The epic Austrian vs. Prussian bitching? Okay, I'm probably the only person who could get excited about something like that.~~
So, I’m still excited about the second

blackwoodcoward fic exchange. All those gorgeous fics coming up in a month! I love this fandom - it‘s tiny, but it has more really, REALLY great writers than most big fandoms. I just don’t like the prompt I’m supposed to write, it’s rather similar to something I already did before in some other fic I wrote, and it does nothing to make me want to write again. But I’m a good girl, and I will probably come up with something soon. I shouldn’t complain, I just felt kinda disappointed when I read the prompt, and I needed to whine a little. I had hoped for something that would make me think, “Wow, this is epic, my writer's block is gone, I can’t wait to start working on this!” and not “oh, okay, sure, I wouldn’t want to disappoint my giftee”.

Maybe I should really write pretentious literature fic about Landa and Hellstrom just to remember when writing feels like. It would probably be even more snobby than the pretentious music fic I wrote about them. ~~Am I the only one who thinks that Cal Lightman would have a field day with Landa? Don’t worry, I won’t write crazy crossover fic.~~ No, really, I miss Hellstrom, I miss his dysfunctional relationship with Landa, I miss their pretentious intellectuality, their mindfucking, their wonderfully understated love for each other, the kind of love that still wouldn’t keep them from shooting each other if they could get away with it, except that they would be so very bored without each other. I miss Hellstrom’s half-hateful admiration for Landa, and Landa’s reluctant fascination with Hellstrom … I just miss them. If only I knew what to do with them. Other than have them discuss literature in bed. ;)

Anyway, I should focus on my fic for the fic exchange, instead of looking for supposedly legitimate ways of procrastinating. ;)

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Oh, just write the bloody thing. I remember when you were all angsty over Hellstrom quoting Hegel and the end result worked beautifully. So please, do write this fic and have them quote Schiller to each other while in the throes of passion.

P.S.: I don't know about you, but I am VERY PISSED at the last True Blood episode. Except for Russell, who is truly awesome beyond belief.

Edited 2010-08-18 03:05 (UTC)

Yeah, but at least Hellstrom quoted Hegel for a reason. Fortunately, though, I finally came up with a reason for him to quote Schiller, so things might just work out. However, the quoting will happen after the passion. ;)
(Now I just have to figure out a way to have Landa read Baudelaire to Hellstrom... but I believe the world couldn't take the beauty of Hans Landa reading Baudelaire.)

Obviously I'm pissed off. How COULD they kill Franklin? Or rather: how could they kill him so early and so soon? If they had killed him after three amazing seasons, okay, but this? Godric's death made me sad, Franklin's just made me angry. And getting killed by Jason, of all people ... how much more humiliating can it be? *grumble*
Still adore Russell ("And now for the weather. Tiffany?"), although I think they overdid his insanity a bit. I really loved what they did with Eric and Pam - their relationship is really well done.
Btw, thanks for the pictures you sent to me. I liked them very much. :)

Of course, but I was thinking of the scenes in the actual movie. I still can't believe they cheated us out of the one and only Landa&Hellstrom-scene.

Nice explanation. ;) And Landa is probably bitching because Dieter's shirt is too tight for him. ;)

Go ahead. ^^ Landa messing around with boys in his boarding school is too beautiful to be anyone's intellectual property. ;)

Well, either the bitching fits in some other fic I'm going to write, or I might have to write the scene in a Viennese café, with Hellstrom being a Prussian, stuck-up bitch, refusing to use Austrian vocabulary, and Landa being all ashamed and giving the waiter apologetic smiles. Problem? I can't write funny fics for my life.

Thank you. :-)

A little ficlet of an argument in a Viennese café would work just fine. After all, you did write "Rest" which consisted pretty much of Landa's musings before, during and after he shampoos his precious Dieterchen's hair. And that worked beautifully.

Not to mention "Reckless", your wonderful "plotless strangulation kink" (as you dubbed it) ficlet. A plot is simply a beginning, a middle and an end, and both these ficlets had that. :-D

Forgive the nudging, but I just love your Landa/Hellstrom slash, and if there's anything I can do to encourage you to write more, I'll do it!

"I still can't believe they cheated us out of the one and only Landa&Hellstrom-scene."

I know, I know!!! It just kills me. I guess we'll just have to wait for the bloated director's cut. To be honest, I was more than a little disappointed with the two-disc special edition DVD. There were plenty of cut scenes that could have been included. The only logical reasoning for their omission comes from what Tarantino himself said, that he had enough footage left over to do a prequel to the film. Only Herr Waltz has said he won't repeat the role, and Tarantino ususally takes about 5 years to produce a movie, so a prequel is bound not to work when the actors are 5-6 years older.

OMFG. Landa reading Baudelaire to Hellstrom...you just HAVE to make this happen. You have no choice, you've already teased us with the very idea.

You and I are on absolutely the same wavelength with regards to Franklin's demise. I had just told another friend and fan that Franklin's demise was bad enough, but to have him killed by Jason, of all people??? I was so angry I barely made it through the rest of the episode. And part of me keeps hoping that somehow or another he'll come back. How the hell could they introduce him as such a major character only to get rid of him so soon??? It reminded me of what happened on the TV series Mad Men. The show had just started exploring Sal's life as a closeted gay in early sixties Manhattan, he'd just had his first hot kiss at the hands (lips?) of a hotel bellboy, and they promptly have him fired and end what would have been one of the most interesting storylines of the series. WTF? WTFF?? WTFFF???

I know it was overdone, but still, I so enjoyed Russell's over-the-top insanity, especially when he's sitting there waving that piece of spinal chord around. And I agree with you about Eric and Pam's interaction and the additional insight into their relationship. This season has had a lot of nice character development scenes like this, including the one between Godric and Lafayette, and the ones between Lafayette and Jesus just get better and better. There's substantially more depth this season than there was in season 2.

Glad you enjoyed the pics. We aim to please. ;-D

I'd love to make that happen ... I love Baudelaire so much, and imagining Landa reading his poems ... oh my. But, yeah, I'll have to figure something out. Right now I'm too busy with Schiller.

I just don't get it, why do they have to get rid of their best characters? First Godric, now Franklin. Talbot was, while not all that fascinating, at least really entertaining. Maybe it's the whole "too cool to live"-thing - no show (movie, book) may have characters that are ten times cooler than the main characters. ;)

The last scene, with the spinal chord, was really great. But Russell talking to Talbot's remains in that jar was not insane, or funny, or well done, but just ridiculous. And not in a convincing way.

including the one between Godric and Lafayette
Don't we wish. ;)

As much as I love Tarantino, I just don't believe him whenever he talks about movies he wants to make one day - because half of those movies will probably never be made. And I just hate how we won't get to see those scenes just because he might, maybe, maybe, one day in the far future, decide to use them in a prequel. Also - even if there was a prequel, how would that include Landa and Hellstrom in the cinema?

True, but none of these were supposed to be funny. The problem is not really the plot (or lack of it), but the problem is that whenever I try to write something funny, it just ends up sounding stupid/ridiculous. One funny line I can do, but not an entire funny fic.

"plotless strangulation kink" (as you dubbed it)
I actually rather liked that description. ;) It was fitting, as much as I like that piece myself.

Your nudging is flattering and makes me happy. It looks like part three of La musica might actually get written in the near future. Btw, if you're interested, I posted a few entries in the past few days that included both rambling about Landa/Hellstrom and pretty pictures of August. ^^

The story doesn't have to be funny per se. I liked the sweetness of "Rest" which had some nice touches of humor to it. That's all you need. Don't think about it so much, just start writing it and let the characters take you where they need to go. The humor will emerge naturally.

Did I neglect to tell you that "plotless strangulation kink" is my absolute favorite fic description EVER? That's why I used it in that comment. And yes, it was entirely fitting, and it is a very good piece. ;-)

I'm looking forward to seeing Part 3 of La Musica Della Parole. I sent you a response to your e-mail. I must now head to your page to read your ramblings and ogle Gusti. :-)

Good point about the cinema scene not making it into the prequel - Duhhh, Deborah!!! We'll just have to wait for that bloated director's cut/Special Edition DVD.

I tend to be skeptical of Tarantino's proposed films, too (he's been talking about Kill Bill Vol. 3 for a while now), but he did say the prequel might actually happen since he had a fair amount of footage he could use as well as those parts unfilmed but in the screenplay (Shoshanna in the cinema, etc.). The man does have an additional 350 pages of screenplay that never made it into the film. So it's almost as though it were partly done already. Anyway, we'll see.

Landa should read Baudelaire in the original French, so Hellstrom can drool over his accent as in "La Musica delle Parole" before jumping his bones. ;-)

"including the one between Godric and Lafayette"

That has to be my best wishful-thinking-Freudian-slip EVER. Of course I meant Eric and Lafayette. But now that we've put the thought in my head, how lovely that would have been, Godric offering comfort to the traumatized Lafayette after Eric had released him... ;-D

I don't understand why the producers are disposing of their best characters, either. Frankly, all of these secondary characters interest me far more than Bill, Sookie and Jason ever did. They should have killed off Jason's latest romance so we wouldn't have to be subjected to all the nonsense we're forced to see now.

Good point about Russell talking to the remains-jar. That was indeed a bit much, and unconvincing, as you said. I think I supressed that scene because it was so damn cartoony.

Anyway, I'll be interested to see what they come up with tonight. Now they did mentioned the WW II era Russell & his werewolves, but I imagine it's expecting too much for them to give us a few more flashbacks of Eric & Godric in their GUHNFY SS uniforms...

For now I'll focus on La musica, then I'll reconsider the whole Prussian vs. Austrian bitching. It would be so much fun, I just don't know if I'm up to it. Also, let's face it, I don't know all that much about all the exact details of Viennese German. And I can just about see myself asking my brother (who lived in Vienna for a while) for advice.
brother: What do you need that for?
Linn: Erm, Landa and Hellstrom bickering about vocabulary in my fanfic?
brother: *facepalm*

Haha, okay. ^^ I honestly rather like it myself. Bad Tophy, erm, Landa, for giving me a strangulation kink.

Glad you enjoyed the Gusti pics. :D

Well, duh, in what other language? Translating poetry is a sin. ;) Oh, speaking of literature, I recently found a beautiful quote from Thomas Mann's Zauberberg, which of course I didn't pay attention to when I read the book. It's very eloquent rambling about smoking being the biggest pleasure ever. It sounds like Hellstrom wrote it. ;) It is now his official answer to Landa's constant, fretting, "Dieterchen, you smoke too much."

Now I have to imagine exasperated Godric. "Eric, my child, do you always have to scare these poor little humans like that?"

Yes, and I found that cartoony, ridiculous scene somehow disrespectful for a great character like Russell. I hate it when cool characters do OOC-stuff.

Well, if there are flashbacks (or other great things), please don't spoil me again. ;P I won't get around to watching it before tomorrow night.

Now you have to find a way to work in Hellstrom quoting that ramble about smoking from Mann's Zauberberg. You'd better stop reading for a while. ;-D

Re True Blood: not to worry. I have sworn to never again spoil you with spoilers! I'll be interested to hear what you think about this week's episode.

I don't think there's a woman out there who DIDN'T gain a strangulation kink thanks to our "Tophy."

LOL at your little imagined scene with your brother. He must sometimes wonder how you both sprang from the same womb (kidding!) x-D

"Tophy" is such a terrible nickname (hence the icon). I don't even know why i can't stop using it.

Haha, I guess he does. We're pretty different (except for the whole pretentious wannabe intellectuals part). Well, he does know I write slash fic and while he thinks it's pretty weird, he's not the kind of person to argue with me about it.

That's what I always think. Reading books keeps me from writing (but more because I hate my writing the more I read, rather than because I want intellectual Nazis to quote literature ;)).
Using that quote shouldn't bee to hard: I just need some scene that has Landa being worried about his Dieterchen, and that happens far more often than Landa would ever admit.
I think I need to re-read Der Zauberberg ... and Buddenbrooks, too. But for now I'll content myself with watching the movie adaptation of the Buddenbrooks with August Diehl. I don't know if you've seen it, but I found a torrent that has English subtitles.

Okay, I've finally seen the episode. I rather liked it. Again, I loved the scenes with Eric and Pam, especially when she mentioned Godric. Russell/boytoy was fucked-up in all the right ways. I don't think there's anyone who's not squeeing about Hoyt/Jessica, and I'm also really glad they're finally giving us a few more scenes with Bill and Jessica. As I said, I love maker-child-relationships, and it's great that Bill is finally behaving like a proper maker and taking care of her. There was probably also a lot of bullshit that annoyed me, but I've conveniently forgotten about it. Ah, right, and the Sam flashbacks were great! I love dark!Sam. With black hair. Epic. His little brother is getting more and more annoying, and even their puppy love can't make up for that. I also want to do horrible, painful things to Tara. GIMME BACK MY FRANKLIN!!!
Erm, yes. What did you think of it? :)

I agree. Henceforth we will dispense with "Tophy". There are a couple of actors out there who have smugly shortened their name to Topher, and that's bad enough.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you're both "pretentious wannabe intellectuals." ;-D

As soon as I read there was a download of Buddenbrooks with English subs AND August Diehl I sought it out. I'm torrenting it as I write. :-) BTW, if you can recommend any other film adaptations of Mann, let me know. I do have "Death in Venice", of course.

Re True Blood: I liked this episode, too. Loved the Sam flashbacks and Lafayette & Jesus' V interlude. At first I couldn't stand Jessica, but over the last few episodes I've come to like her, especially now that she's getting proper training from Bill and fighting back big time. Her character's finally developing beyond the whiny, lovesick "I'm a vampire, what do I do?" teen. And I, too, am happy about the return of Hoyt. :-) Like you, I'm starting to find Tommy very annoying and was worried for a while that he would end up with her.

Omigod, yes, Russell had some GREAT "I'm in fucked-up despair" scenes in this last episode, and of course any slash involving him is more than welcome, as I'm sure you'll agree. ;-)

They buried Franklin's remains, and don't the vampires in this series heal when they're planted underground? I know that happened to Bill once. So I'm hoping since Franklin was buried fairly quickly after he was killed that the soil will bring him back to life...could that remotely be a possibility?

I don't think it's really possible to make proper movie adaptations of Mann's novels, at least not of the long ones. "Death in Venice" worked beautifully, sure. But Buddenbrooks? 1000 pages of possibly the best writing ever put into a two hour movie? It just doesn't work. But if you just watch the movie for itself, without ever comparing it to the novel, it's not bad. I just finished watching it - the music is horribly cheesy, and the acting is sometimes a bit stilted. But they did really well with some things (woah the accents, yay!), so it's not all bad. Just don't compare it to the book.
And UNF August, he's amazing. Christian is probably the most fascinating character to play in the whole thing, and August is doing really well with the role. In tiny parts: Sylvester Groth being hilarious (am I the only one who thinks that he kinda looks like James Frain? Not as Goebbels, but in some other movies?), and the guy who played Oberfeldwebel Wilhelm in Basterds.
... Oh, and another difference between novel and movie? I read the novel just for itself, and loved it. The movie got me shipping Thomas/Christian like there's no tomorrow. How am I supposed to resist hate/love-brothercest? With more hate than love, mind you. I definitely need to reread the novel to see if the slashiness is already there, or if it was only brought there by the actors. I really can't remember, but maybe that's just because Mann's writing blew my mind so much I overlooked the slash.
Anyway, I don't really know about other adaptations. I've seen an adaptation of Der Zauberberg once, but I pretty much erased it from my memory. You just can't make a movie from a novel like that. *shrug*
Tell me what you thought of the Buddenbrooks movie when you've seen it. Especially of August. :) I made a bunch of caps - picspam might follow.

True Blood: I agree, Jessica was rather annoying in the beginning (understandably so), but now she is really getting more interesting.
I don't think Franklin will be back now. The whole burying-in-the-soil-thing doesn't work when a vampire has met "true death", as they call it. Once he got staked, he's gone, and nothing can bring him back. Otherwise Russell would have done that with Talbot, no? I don't know, I think it's very unlikely. (And if they do bring Franklin back, that will be a very pleasant surprise. ;))

But ... but ... some part of me likes "Tophy". ;) It's not my fault. I blame Nariel. ;)

Actually, that doesn't do my brother justice at all. Because ... he really isn't pretentious, and he'd probably think the word 'intellectual' in itself is absolutely ridiculous. Oh, whatever, it's not like you know him. I'm just defending him here because I said such bad things about him. ;) Blabla. Who cares.

Oh, god. How can you actually LIKE "Tophy"? Well, you have to have something wrong with you, you simply can't be so perfectly brilliant without at least one flaw, so I'll let you have this one.

Good girl for showing repentance re your brother. That's the sisterly thing to do. ;-)

I'll let you know what I think when I get the chance to screen Buddenbrooks. I know I'm going to love August's performance--he's so bloody talented he takes my breath away. And ooooooh, please do a picspam ASAP!

True Blood: *sigh* you're probably right about Franklin never coming back, especially since the season will end after two more episodes. Damn it to hell. Bloody stupid producers!!!

Is it just me, or does this season seem far shorter than the last one? Or is it only because after Godric died, last season seemed to transform into one long, boring, interminable mess?

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