OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE FANDOM!!!

[linndechir]

You know what pisses me off? Blatant hypocrisy in fandom. I mean, I get it, we all have favourite characters and we are a lot more forgiving about their faults, and we have characters we already despise, so of course we're going to be even harder on them when they fuck up. And that's okay, we're all human and biased. But when two characters DO THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING, and you applaud one of them for being badass and cool and doing the right thing, and hate on the other for doing something so utterly horrible and evil ... it's just dumb. It's okay to hate characters, and it's okay to be protective of characters you love. But that doesn't mean that those you hate can't occasionally do something cool. Nor does loving a character mean that they don't occasionally fuck up and do something wrong. But if character A doing something is totally badass (or at least acceptable), I don't see why character B doing the same thing is horrifying and wroooong.

The most obvious example of this is the kind of people who yell OMFG DOMESTIC ABUSE at Robert slapping Cersei, but cheer loudly and happily when Tyrion slaps Joffrey. Make up your mind: either hitting people is wrong, then you shouldn't be so happy about Tyrion slapping his thirteen-year-old nephew. Or you think that occasionally people are such dumb shits that they deserve a slap, and in that case I don't see why you get all outraged about Robert slapping Cersei. Because the situation was very similar. You don't get to feel all righteous and outraged about the one and applaud the other. I could go on and on with examples (kings executing people for high treason, which is apparently cool when "flawless" Robb does it, but despicable when "evil" Stannis does it; or kinslaying/shrugging it off when someone else kills your relatives), but then I'd just get angry. Angrier. *grumble*

Just, argh. Don't mind me, I'm in a ranting mood.

Comments

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I am SO WITH YOU.


It is a bit different in Robert/Cersei and Tyrion/Jpffrey , though , at least in the TV show ans this is were the majority of people are coming from, because the actor that plays Joffrey is not 13, but 18-ish. I mean - a bit different (because slapping a woman is not the same as slapping a 18-year old horror of a guy), but not that different for me to start using "Tyrion slap" all over the place. But in the books - yes, the same thing (did Tyrion slap Joffrey in the books?).

BUu the thing with Stannis and "noble Robb" or "noble Ned" does make me angry - everyone is SO OUTRAGED by everything that Stannis does, but Ned executing Will with his own hands without properly asking him "WHAT HAPPENED" (or killing what is almost a puppy - Lady) - this is "Our noble Northern way"

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

I think that argument existed even before the show. I suppose it's just because everyone despises Joffrey anyway so we like to see him slapped around (tbh, that's why I absolutely didn't mind seeing Cersei slapped around). And at least the LJ part of fandom is pretty focused on women and how women are abused in the books, so they just focus more on violence against women than on violence against men.

Gnuh, yes. "omfg Stannis burns innocent people". Wait, what, where was, what's his name, his Florent castellan innocent? The guy went behind Stannis' back to negotiate a separate peace that Stannis would never agree to. That's the very definition of high treason. Sure, burning people is a pretty horrible way to kill someone, but Stannis had every right to have the guy executed.