NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN!!!!!

[linndechir]

This is getting fucking frustrating! Everyone around me is posting their Hanukkah fics, and my stupid fic still refuses to get written. Even the first draft isn't finished, because whenever I try to work on it, it gets more fucked up. First, I made the participating characters even more insane than they already are. Then, I decided to use flashbacks - I HATE flashbacks, I've never written any because I hate reading them, but my brainless fic idea only works with flashbacks. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, one of my characters suddenly started quoting Hegel. WHAT THE FUCK??? I'm not even writing about Landa, for God's sake! I'm starting to think that I should delete the whole thing and start anew, but I have honestly no better idea for the prompt I was given than the one I'm using now. It's actually a good idea, I think, except that it's so weird that it only makes sense in my brain, but not when I write it. Whatever, I'll just pretend my lack of sense and clarity is artistic and mysterious and complex. Or something. I just want to write something better than pointless porn with the pairing and the kinks my giftee asked for. :(
The worst thing is that I waited so long to write this because when I came up with this idea weeks ago, I was sure that I could easily write it down in two days, and voilà. But, no, everything always turns out to be ten times more complicated.
Why the fuck is he quoting Hegel? Seriously, Hegel? In bed? Not even IB characters should be so fucked up that they start lecturing their partner on philosophy and freedom during sex. *smashes head against the wall*

Comments

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

I will have to finish it. I'll just imagine Heydrich kicking my ass, or something. And not the way I like it. ;)

I have no idea. I was innocently writing my fic, and suddenly this character bursts out with a Hegel quote that seemed suddenly perfectly appropriate for the situation. The fact that it's one of my favourite quotes does not make this any better.

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

Until Saturday evening.

Well, it's not an exact quote as written by Hegel, but it's a very often used sentence that resumes his theories about freedom. I only know the German version, "Freiheit ist Einsicht in die Notwendigkeit", I'm still struggling to translate this properly into English.

[deborahkla.livejournal.com]

It all depends upon the character who's quoting Hegel and how deeply he's within the throes of passion. But please don't let it be that pasty-faced Heydrich. I have no problem with you using real-life Nazis (and I'm a Jew who had relatives killed at Babi Yar), but at least Mengele's good-looking, albeit probably not bright enough. But then, Nazi uniform fetish and all, I am one twisted fuck. :-)

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

Oh, c'mon, Heydrich is hot! Not beautiful, no, everything looks wrong in his face. He SHOULDN'T be hot. But then you realise that he has the most gorgeous, erotic hands ever ... and you take a closer look at him and notice his "come hither"-stare, not to mention his smile ... and you read about him and realise that his personality is so fascinating it makes your head spin ... And at some point you realise once more that attractiveness has nothing to do with eyes that are too small, and a nose that is too big, and a generally weird face. :)
Anyway ... I'll stop drooling now ... but this fic is not about Heydrich, don't worry. It's pure IB, no real Nazis in this one.

[cat-irix.livejournal.com]

Aye aye. *nods, dreamy-eyed* :) Anyway, good luck with the fic! I think that quoting philosophical quotes in bed is hot, and I know a few RL people who would totally do it.

And LOL at the watchtower joke ;) I love these kinds of jokes.

[machiavelli-imp.livejournal.com]

There were T-shirts for sale in Australia with that joke on them ("My grandfather died at [insert KL name here]" on the front and "He fell out of a guard tower" on the back, but if one was caught wearing one in public one had to do several months of community service.)

Philosophy is far hotter and more meaningful than the usual post-coital drivel that one sees on TV shows or reads in books (which I am going to blame on the popularity of American culture, since I am a pretentious arse). On the other hand, if someone is capable of speaking after sex then in an ideal world they've probably picked the wrong partner. (*cough* Yeah, sure, totally realistic expectation. *cough*)

[cat-irix.livejournal.com]

What a great T-shirt idea! Now I wonder if this joke would be just as funny if it were not offensive to the majority. (Currently contemplating if there's any social occasion which could warrant wearing a Rammstein T-shirt with the infamous "Stacheldraht im Harnkanal" quote :)

Intellectual discussions during sex are hot... AND if it's brutal & violent dub-con sex, doubly so! *pokes Linn* ;)

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

I want that t-shirt! Even if I can only wear it at home, I don't care. Squee!

I'm glad you're a pretentious arse, it makes me feel less alone. And he's babbling about philosophy during sex (or rather, during foreplay), not afterwards. I have no idea yet what he's going to do afterwards. I'm slightly scared of what he might do.

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

Ah, my fellow Heydrich-fangirl coming to rescue his honour. Or at least defend his hotness. ;)

I love it too. I only wish I could tell it to more people. :)

[deborahkla.livejournal.com]

Yep, his face is all fucked-up. Strangely enough, he looks like the one blonde among my siblings, my sister Ann. Same giant Jew-lips all out of proportion with the rest of the face. But I think it's more that I don't like pallid blonde men. Now pallid blonde women like Catherine Deneuve and Jessica Lange, that's another story. But I like my Aryan men to be butch and golden and tawny like rampant lions, with that wonderful pink-gold skin.

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

He's not my type either, that's what makes him so interesting. He doesn't need to be my type to drive me half insane. ^^

[skull-bearer.livejournal.com]

My Mengele character takes umbridge at this.
Philosophical question; is it worse for you (a Jew) to like nazis, or me (a descendant of collaborators)?

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

At least you guys all have an excuse. You can say, "Oh, I'm allowed to make jokes about this/drool at Nazis/whatever; I can't possibly be one myself!" I'm like Hitler's poster girl; people get all the wrong ideas when I say stuff like that. ;)
(Somehow that reminds me of this joke ... "My grandfather died in a camp ... He fell from a watchtower." :))

[skull-bearer.livejournal.com]

I love that joke ;)

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

So do I. I feel the constant urge to tell it everywhere and to everyone, but I'm afraid most people would give me outraged looks. *sigh*

[deborahkla.livejournal.com]

Yes, you are a bit on the Wagnerian side! Yes, we can do "Springtime for Hitler" and get away with it. And twisted as I am, I do like that joke. I myself am a mongrel, who has her Christmas and Hanukkah too. A classic Deborah utterance oft-repeated in my family is a remark I made to my father when he hadn't eaten all his Hanukkah candy one year: "Will you eat that goddamn Maccabee? It's Christmas, for Christ's sake!"

[deborahkla.livejournal.com]

Who knows. We all share in the same twisted fuckery. Okay, now I wanna read whatever you've written about Mengele, who was definitely handsome--but his experiments were so fucking stupid and pointless! I mean, seriously, they are the equivalent of Bart Simpson's evil twin sewing together the rat and bird. Jesus, if you're gonna have human subjects, at least do some decent experiments on them, like the CIA and the American military! :-D

[skull-bearer.livejournal.com]

I haven't really written it down yet, because it's an epically bizarre story mixing a whole lot of crossovers with Hellboy and Man with the Iron Heart and Inglorious Basterds, along with the whole 'occult nazis' tropes, with Mengele as the main character. I haven't dared write it out on my LJ because I think a bunch of friends may desert en-mass if I do.

[machiavelli-imp.livejournal.com]

May I shamelessly plug reich_writing? It *should* be screened so updates appear only to members, thus removing the f-list problem.
This sounds like a surreal but very entertaining story.

[machiavelli-imp.livejournal.com]

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[deborahkla.livejournal.com]

I love this!!! But the only good-looking guy is the one on the right, and even there we can't see his whole face. But the haircut...the haircut..!

Himmler. What a twat. Every time I see that pudgy little face I actually do feel ashamed for liking SS uniforms. And only because he's so incredibly ugly!!

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

Undercuts. *whimper* They're just awful. Even Heydrich doesn't look hot with one. How wrong is it that I ship Himmler/Heydrich anyway?

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

I think I'm a little bit in love with you. ;) Don't worry, I'm harmless.
Damn, now I'm fantasising about Heydrich punishing me. There need to be a lot more funny captions on nazi pics. :D