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Give me a pairing and I'll tell you:
1. When or if I started shipping them:
2. What I think their challenge is:
3. What makes me happy about them:
4. What makes me sad about them:
5. What moment I wish had never happened:
6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other:
7. My happily ever after for them:
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Give me a pairing and I'll tell you:
1. When or if I started shipping them:
2. What I think their challenge is:
3. What makes me happy about them:
4. What makes me sad about them:
5. What moment I wish had never happened:
6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other:
7. My happily ever after for them:
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Date: 2011-10-03 03:04 am (UTC)Stannis/Sansa!
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Date: 2011-10-03 03:10 am (UTC)2. Finding to each other. They're extremely different people who have virtually nothing in common. He isn't the man of her dreams, and he doesn't even have a woman of his dreams. She'd be scared of him, he'd just see a necessity in her. It will take them time in the beginning to start seeing more in each other and give each other a chance to be happy, rather than just go like, "well, we have to marry, let's hope it doesn't suck too much."
3. How good they would be for each other. She'd finally get the life she always wanted, and he'll finally have someone who loves him for who he is, in the end. Not to mention that he'd finally get a son. ;)
4. That it will never happen in canon.
5. Since nothing HAS happened, I can't really answer that.
6. I have trouble thinking of anyone else I'd want to see Sansa with. I ship Sandor/Sansa, but I can't see them in a relationship. I guess there are other nice guys out there who could make Sansa happy but I can't think of any other canon character I'd want to see her with. And while I ship Stannis with Davos and Jon, none of these ships are exclusive. I ship him with all three of them at the same time. ;) Other women... I guess shortly after Renly's death Stannis/Margaery might have worked, if not for Selyse. But I doubt they'd be happy together.
7. They ARE my happily ever after, the cliché fairytale, only with Stannis as hero, trololol. ;) King Stannis, Queen Sansa, Prince Steffon and a bunch more kids, and them being strangely happy together after the first months of awkwardness, embarrassment and insecurity.
Since you also seem to ship them, how do you see them?
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Date: 2011-10-03 03:30 am (UTC)Re: spoilers for ADWD (if anyone else reads these comments)
Date: 2011-10-03 08:41 am (UTC)FEEL FREE TO TRY TO MAKE ME WRITE IT AFTER 21 OCT. /so much uni work right nowThey are the best allies and the best disinherited bros. (Hey Stannis, bet you never thought not getting Storm's End would cause you to relate to bastards who're outside of the line of succession by birth but, oh look, I guess it kind of did.) And they are fantastic mirrors of each other.
I hate ADWD for making me think that Stannis is a truly viable candidate for King because now I want to deny the fact that he's unlikely to survive the series. STANNIS WOULD BE A BETTER KING THAN ANY OF YOU, DAMN IT. One night, whilst reading ADWD, I left my mother a note which just said, "for the record, I want Stannis on the Iron Throne now" because I could not hold in my feelings.
Jon/Wall is one of my (many) Jon OTPs. Eee. I am so intrigued by Stannis/Bastard of Nightsong though. (Because I clearly need more Stannis ships to balance it out.)
I'm not entirely sure that Jon would work as Stannis' Hand because, in some ways, they are too similar and, if they were on the same side, Jon might not have that divergent a point-of-view on things. Jon in a white cloak would be ADORABLE though.
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Date: 2011-10-03 01:24 pm (UTC)Yes yes yes yes. I love how what Robert did to him (and to a lesser extent Renly) just makes Stannis feel like a bastard. Like he's somehow not a "real" brother. And for Stannis that's almost worse because Jon IS a bastard, Jon always knew he wouldn't get Winterfell, wouldn't get anything his brothers had, but Stannis grew up as a trueborn son, expeccting to be treated the same as his brothers. Definitely mirrors here.
Didn't you like Stannis prior to ADWD? Who did you want on the throne before that? Because there are many characters I like in this series, but not many I can see ruling well. Other than Stannis I can only think of Tywin. I'm so jealous of people whose parents read ASOIAF, btw. I got my brother to read it, but he's only a mad Greyjoy fan, it's kind of funny. He randomly comes to see me and says WHAT IS DEAD CAN NEVER DIE!!!!
I can't really ship Jon with many people. My OTP there is Jon/Wall, and now Jon/Stannis. I'm okay with Jon/Satin for some hurt/comfort, but not as a long-term relationship. I kind of ship Jon/Aegon in my own crazy AU, but that's about it.
Haha, I just love the Bastard of Nightsong for having such an epic nickname. Also, he'S a king's man and Stannis seems to trust him a lot, so he must be a real badass. I hope we'll get to see him again.
I'm not a huge fan of Jon as his Hand either, because the whole point of making someone other than Davos his Hand would be to have someone more respectable, someone his lords would accept. Ned Stark's bastard may be a bit better than a former smuggler, but not exactly fancy either. ;) But Kingsguard!Jon would be amazing. If only so Jon can object that he isn't even a knight, and Stannis in a typical fit of grumpy irritation would just tell him to STFU and kneel so Stannis can knight him.
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Date: 2011-10-03 01:42 pm (UTC)Exactly! They're both overshadowed by their brothers and have been placed outside of the line of succession - and, yes, less justly so in Stannis' case. Each of them has had to fight for a place of their own (Stannis for Dragonstone, captured from the Targaryens, and Jon for the Wall and the respect of his brothers).
I liked Stannis before ADWD but I just couldn't really get behind him as king. Until he showed up at the Wall toward the end of ASOS I didn't even really see him as much of a candidate because his plot seemed so periforal. I don't think I had any real preference about who ended up on the throne before I got behind Stannis though.
I love that your brother is a Greyjoy fan! I hope to meet him one day IN THE DROWNED GOD'S WATERY HALL! Haha. I'm so pleased I got my mother into the books though. :D
I ship Jon/EVERYTHING. I can't help it. I don't even know why.
So digging the idea of Stannis knighting Jon just to make him shut the hell up about his objections. Stannis would be all: "You will be an asset to my Kingsguard and you will kneel as I tell you to." And Jon's response would be something like: "... *kneels*". XD
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Date: 2011-10-03 01:48 pm (UTC)Poor Stannis, feeling like a bastard now. :(
It took me some time to get behind Stannis, but I think he won me over when he first said that he didn't want the throne, that he thought of it mostly as a duty and an obligation (it was either in ACOK or in ASOS). And he's the only character so far who is NOT mostly about wanting power, but about the responsibilities of power. Well, Ned too, but without being as naive as Ned. Also, I loved how very early on, Stannis gets real moral depth. He's one of the few characters who seem to think about what's right and wrong, about the consequences of their action, what is acceptable and what is not. And he's not even a POV character.
My mother doesn't like fantasy, nor my father. But I got my brother to read it, even though he doesn't like Stannis. Unfortunately he ruined one of Aeron's quotes for me when he misspoke and said, "no godless man shall shit the Seastone Chair." I can't say it properly anymore. -.-
I ship Stannis/everything. ;) It's compulsive.
It's hilarious, isn't it? Stannis is so wonderfully matter-of-fact. "Oh, you're not a knight? Mhm, k, then I'll knight you."
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Date: 2011-10-03 03:53 pm (UTC)Renly and Loras!
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Date: 2011-10-03 09:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-03 09:58 pm (UTC)2. Other than Renly's death? Depending on whether you go with the show interpretation of them or not, I think Loras' ambition was one of the things that pushed Renly into the dumbest decision ever. The show implied he had some influence on that, but we don't know what Loras thought of it in the books.
3. How much they really, honestly love each other. At least Loras Renly, we don't know all that much about Renly's feelings.
4. That they didn't get their happily ever after.
5. Renly crowning himself and not bending the knee to Stannis, cos that's what got him killed.
6. Nobody, really, they're an OTP in the truest sense, I can't ship either of them with anyone else. Part of me is incredibly intrigued by Stannis/Loras, but I don't see it happening.
7. Their happily ever after is a big What If: Renly bending the knee and supporting Stannis, spending his life as Lord of Storm's End and on the council (i.e. in King's Landing), with Loras on Stannis' Kingsguard and they get to spend all their free time together and actually lead the happy life they deserve.
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Date: 2011-10-04 01:25 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-10-08 12:30 am (UTC)Re: spoilers for ADWD (if anyone else reads these comments)
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Date: 2011-10-08 12:39 am (UTC)Re: spoilers for ADWD (if anyone else reads these comments)
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Date: 2011-10-09 12:26 am (UTC)1. I don't think I've given them much thought, tbh, if anything I'd be more into Victarion/Euron. But I suppose the door made me think a thing or two.
2. Other that the fact that they hate each other? ;D
3. Generally what makes me happy about all three brothers is that there will inevitably be some cool stand-off.
4. I doubt both of them will live. I doubt any of them will live. ;)
5. Where do I even begin? Did anything NOT go wrong there?
6. I'd be extremely uncomfortable if they DID end up together. ;) Aeron needs to meet Melisandre. Euron needs to meet Victarion's smoking fist.
7. Maybe they can reconcile in the Drowned God's halls? ;)
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