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[linndechir]

Stealing another meme from sternflammenden, yay! I'm wasting way too much time on memes lately.

Give me a pairing and I'll tell you:
1. When or if I started shipping them:
2. What I think their challenge is:
3. What makes me happy about them:
4. What makes me sad about them:
5. What moment I wish had never happened:
6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other:
7. My happily ever after for them:

Comments

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

Ned didn't talk to Jon, he didn't clear up anything with Robert before he died, he didn't get around to telling Stannis what he meant to tell him .. that makes for lots of unresolved issues. Renly's story was just getting started when he died. I think Tyrion dying would have made sense - he got revenge on his father, which is so much more than anyone else in the series ever got. But mostly for me it's this typical classical tragedy structure in Tyrion's story that made me think, "Wait, this is where the story ENDS, it doesn't go on with a cheap deus ex machina!"

oO That's just a dumb theory. Ned isn't that kind of a schemer. I mean, ANY explanation makes more sense than honest, down-to-earth, direct Ned doing something just to manipulate his son, or nephew in this scenario. We're talking about Ned, not about Littlefinger.
Also, what the hell would Jon have done about being a Targaryen bastard, in a world in which Robert rules safely and has two legitimate sons (which is what Ned thinks by the time he decides NOT to tell Jon about it)? Except emo more about it?

[geeklee.livejournal.com]

honest, down-to-earth, direct Ned doing something just to manipulate his son,

i totally agree. still, i wish it was explained why he didn't talk then. of course, no one could have known that was the last time they'd see each other.

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

Exactly. Ned was 35ish, Jon was 15, there was no reason to think that Ned would never come back and not get another chance to tell him. Maybe it was as simple as Ned wanting Jon to grow up a little bit more before knowing the truth, whatever that truth was. And, depending on what theory you go with, Ned might not have told him for the same reasons he didn't tell him before: either he loved Jon's mother and talking about her is painful, or Jon is Lyanna's son and Ned promised to keep whatever the secret was ... both reasons would still apply even when Jon goes to the Wall.
I don't know, tbh I've never cared much about who Jon's parents are. What matters is how Jon grew up, and he grew up as a Stark. He's a Stark through and through, no matter how his mother or his father is. I know it's unlikely, but I really hope that the big mystery of Jon's parents actually won#t have a big impact on his storyline. I'd prefer the message of Jon being Ned's son because Ned raised him as his son (whether Ned is his biological father or not) to a message of "he was fathered by some guy he never even met and that's totally important now."