OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE FANDOM!!!

[linndechir]

You know what pisses me off? Blatant hypocrisy in fandom. I mean, I get it, we all have favourite characters and we are a lot more forgiving about their faults, and we have characters we already despise, so of course we're going to be even harder on them when they fuck up. And that's okay, we're all human and biased. But when two characters DO THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING, and you applaud one of them for being badass and cool and doing the right thing, and hate on the other for doing something so utterly horrible and evil ... it's just dumb. It's okay to hate characters, and it's okay to be protective of characters you love. But that doesn't mean that those you hate can't occasionally do something cool. Nor does loving a character mean that they don't occasionally fuck up and do something wrong. But if character A doing something is totally badass (or at least acceptable), I don't see why character B doing the same thing is horrifying and wroooong.

The most obvious example of this is the kind of people who yell OMFG DOMESTIC ABUSE at Robert slapping Cersei, but cheer loudly and happily when Tyrion slaps Joffrey. Make up your mind: either hitting people is wrong, then you shouldn't be so happy about Tyrion slapping his thirteen-year-old nephew. Or you think that occasionally people are such dumb shits that they deserve a slap, and in that case I don't see why you get all outraged about Robert slapping Cersei. Because the situation was very similar. You don't get to feel all righteous and outraged about the one and applaud the other. I could go on and on with examples (kings executing people for high treason, which is apparently cool when "flawless" Robb does it, but despicable when "evil" Stannis does it; or kinslaying/shrugging it off when someone else kills your relatives), but then I'd just get angry. Angrier. *grumble*

Just, argh. Don't mind me, I'm in a ranting mood.

Comments

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

But Tyrion doesn't know Joffrey is a total monster, he just knows Joffrey is an annoying, self-important brat. I don't know. Rationally, I know that slapping people is not cool and that Tyrion slapping Joffrey is just as unacceptable as Robert slapping Cersei. Emotionally, I cheered in both cases because if anyone ever deserved to get that slap, it's Cersei. I'm cool with emotional responses not being rational, I just wish people would acknowledge that; it just bothers me when people pretend that rationally Tyrion's action was completely acceptable and Robert's wasn't.

Anyway, it's just one example and we can always argue about examples. It just cracks me up when people go all self-righteous about "domestic abuse" while cheering about Tyrion slapping his nephew.

[kem-viva.livejournal.com]

I think Tyrion knows Joffrey is pretty awful, maybe not killing cats and hurting his brother awful, but he is always cruel.

I think I cheered for both the first time I read the series, but now I can not cheer for Robert. He became a much more repulsive character for me as time went on, now I can not see his actions without the thought of other abuses.

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

I feel like I should hate Robert, not for how he treated Cersei (because I don't care much), but for how he treated Stannis (seeeeeething rage here). But I suppose I just feel too sorry for the man to hate him. I know that what he went through is absolutely no excuse for his behaviour, but I can't wish ill on Robert. I just want him to run off with Ned and spend the rest of his life hunting and whoring. ;)

[kem-viva.livejournal.com]

The main reason I don't like Robert is because of how selfish he is imo, the stuff with Cersei is just an add on.

Lol I love asoiaf because different people can love or hate the same character for good reasons, its just down to personal opinion. I don't like the guy who abuses his wife but I love the guy who tried to murder a child lol and its totally okay

[linndechir.livejournal.com]

I mostly just dislike him for how he humiliated Stannis, but mostly I just feel sorry for him.

heh, true, and I have absolutely no problem with that. I mean, I love Roose and Tywin and they're far from good guys. The only thing that bothers me is when people pretend that their favourite characters doing shitty things is somehow morally superior. Like, I understand loving Jaime, but I'd be a bit irritated by someone saying that Jaime throwing Bran out of the window is totally badass and cool. ;)

[kem-viva.livejournal.com]

Lol yeah and I think with almost every action you are able to look at it from their perspective and understand why they would do it too. It does not make it right but it definitely makes it more interesting.